Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Let him cook. Let him cook. Let him cook now. Let him cook. I can't let him cook.
What is going on here?
Boo boo?
[00:00:16] Speaker B: Gotta stay in shape, baby.
[00:00:20] Speaker C: Didn't you just say your back? Okay, you know what? I ain't even gonna bring that up online, man. No, we good.
We good.
[00:00:29] Speaker A: All right, listen, I don't, I don't you want.
[00:00:36] Speaker C: Man, you know what? Just because of that stuff that he doing, you know, I don't even want to do this no movie got me all hype, man. I'm ready like a warrior.
[00:00:50] Speaker B: I'm trying to get warrior status.
[00:00:52] Speaker C: Oh, man.
[00:00:53] Speaker B: Got me all height, baby.
[00:01:01] Speaker A: This world shall know pain.
It's time for anime Fist of Cubs DLC. Who do we have lined up for today?
Love, my boy. Rick Fledsday.
[00:01:26] Speaker C: Woo.
[00:01:28] Speaker A: You understand? So this is actually a very interesting episode of anime fisticuff. So I have on one hand, on my left hand, I've got Dante from Devil may cry. You'll say, normally I wouldn't pick somebody like this because he's a common, he's like an anime character slash video game character, but he does have a manga. So I felt like he could ride with us on this one. And then we got vampire hunter djdeh. So this is really gonna be between me and conspiracy.
I. Look, I'm gonna go ahead and, go ahead and take Dante, you said, all right, I'm gonna let, I'm gonna let you have 500 d.
Before we jump into the, I think before we jump into the battle, I think we do need to do an explanation of each character. So just in case you don't know, you're saying you at least have an understanding. I'm gonna start with you, mister conspiracy, about vampire hunter D. Just give him a little brief overview of who he is just in case they don't know. So it has to be all deep.
[00:02:32] Speaker C: Old school oldie, but goldie, we gonna do that. So vampire hunter D starts out as an old school anime movie. Basically up. He is a half breed vampire and human. He grows up in an apocalyptical world. Of course, he's like 10,000 years old. So, you know, like he grew up a long time ago up until that point.
What's so special about vampire hunts D is that he is the son. And in his storyline, he is the technically the only son of the man, the myth, the legend Dracula.
[00:03:08] Speaker B: So.
[00:03:08] Speaker C: So that basically makes him the, I guess you can, like, he's basically a myth. People really don't know who he actually is. Like his identity in his world and so from that aspect, it's like, okay, that is the only person that was actually born naturally, you know, not bitten, not a blood transplant, anything like that. Transfusion. He's the actual son, you know, from situations, you know, let's put it that way. Yeah. Like, he's the original blade, basically. Yeah.
[00:03:42] Speaker A: So I can say this about vampire Hunter D, like, if you. He. His father conducted many experiments on humans, and matter of fact, it was because his father is the noble of all nobles. You know, people cherish their nobility of their bloodline, you know what I mean, of being pure blood vampires and things like that. And one of the rules was, you know, not to mix with the humans. But Dracula didn't care about all that. Dracula didn't care about any of that. He, like, they may have had they rules, but he lived his life on his term. So I will say, you know, that about vampire hunter D. And D, you know, doesn't go by Dracula, even though that initial is D. He goes by. He goes by D, you know, vampire hunter D. And then.
Yeah, well, which is Dracula backwards. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, cool enough, you know, it's vampire hunter D. So I'm gonna jump over to my guy. So just in case you haven't. You don't know who devil may cry is and you don't know who Dante is. Okay. Dante is one of two sons of the legendary demon Sparta. I got to put emphasis. As much as you know about Dracula and you know how powerful Dracula is, Sparta is basically the devil. I mean, like, he's the king of hell. He literally killed the king of hill, basically, and sealed him, you know, finish them, you know, whatever you want to call it. So he literally is basically the devil. And he had two sons. One of them is Dante, another one's virgil. We're not talking about Virgil, we're talking about Dante.
So Dante grows up. For the first eight years of Dante's life, Dante grew up with his father. His father actually would be in human form. And the reason why his father does what he does is he actually protects humanity from the demon world. We don't know how his father dies, just like we don't know how Dracula dies. You know, we don't. I don't think anybody could just kill him, you know, I think, you know, they got to die. Natural causes or something else, but I don't think you can kill him, but just immensely powerful. So his father trained him from kid to basically, you know, use swords and guns. And at a certain point in time, his father ends up, don his mother raises him and the brother, and then demons eventually come, they kill the mom, and they split the brothers up. Dante thinks his brother's dead, and, you know, he basically makes it his life mission, just like how vampire hunter d life mission is hunting vampires for the very reason. I don't know what his real reasoning is, because maybe what his dad did jacked him up, you know, he didn't agree with it. But I like Dante's motivation is, hey, these demons killed my family, basically, so I'm gonna get revenge even though I'm half demon. So that's who he is. You know, that's a little bit about the setup. So, mister conspiracy, so what do you think? Man, this is, to me, this is a very hard battle to call, you're saying on either front, because their abilities are very similar. A lot of their powers are similar. So.
[00:06:51] Speaker C: So I think it's actually more difficult because of their two universes, which really entails their abilities, right? And then you have one which is like his half breed, you know? Dante different from. Yeah, I'm saying, like, like him being a half breed is a little different. Like, like his half breed is a little different from. From these, honestly, in my opinion.
But it's, it's hard, man, because you really don't see a lot of vampire Hunter D's abilities unless you, you know, read the novels and things like that. If you just look at the movies, you really can't tell, you know, how far his abilities go unless you actually do the research, read the novels and stuff like that. If you like, if you just watch the movies, won't be able to truly tell. Fact of the matter is, member hoodie is really powerful. He is what you basically would. Would. Honestly, he is on the same level as his father when he awakens his actual abilities. Like, like, basically when he awakens his bloodline, he's on that level, you know? And so if you see Dracula as most people do, as the, I want to say, like, the strongest monster is kind of how they portray Dracula, like the immortal, strongest monster to ever live. That type of situation. Like, if you look at, like, Frankenstein's monster and all that type of stuff, like the werewolf man, like, from that type of universe, to me, the vampire hunter d actually is very good with a sword. Yes. Telekinesis. The thing that a lot of people don't know is that his soul exists and, and does not exist because of the fact that he, he does not.
His soul or his life, I should say, is not in the, I'm trying to make sure that I get the actual wording correctly, the aspects records of life. So technically, when he roams through the world, his existence, technically is there and isn't there.
[00:09:07] Speaker B: Oh, wow. I didn't know.
[00:09:10] Speaker C: Yeah, you know, so I'm not sure. So that's what really makes him immune to a lot of effects when it comes to magic, things like that, like when it comes to immortality. So when people say someone's immortal, vampire D is actually truly immortal when it comes to someone killing him, based on the fact of that, he does not actually exist in the aesthetic life records. And because of that, it is actually hard to truly kill him because he's truly considered immortal. This is not even talking about his other abilities, which, if you remember Magnus Lee, how he actually beat him, but they actually explained that it's a thing called fountain of life. And basically what that means is that when vampire Hunter d awakens his bloodline, it actually awakens his innate ability to. I don't want to say, like, it's on the same effect of slashing through dimensions, but in this case, it's basically slashing through life forms. And that's why Magnus, even though he was, like, on, like, God tier level in their universe, that is one of the reasons why he could not actually stop the sword from piercing through. And I, his body and his heart, even though he was indestructible throughout the entire move, everyone saw him as indestructible. Well, it's because that vampire Hunter D has this innate ability when he awakens his bloodline.
Now, there's a few other abilities that he has, but I'll leave it at that. Just, we go ahead and get to the, you know, fisticuffs part.
[00:10:52] Speaker A: Now, there's one more thing I was going to say. Like, if you really want to see a close thing about vampire Hunter D's ability, you could see Castlevania, because Alucard is the closest thing you're gonna see to the abilities of vampire hunter D. Unless you read, like, to your point, the manga. No, because the Castlevania alucard is juiced. You'll say, that dude is hard. So he, I mean, so you think because he just like him, he's the sun and everything. So if you need a comparison on, like, fighting, now what I'll say, yo, Hessa. Like you said, it's a mountain to climb, man. Dante, same kind of, kind of crazy, juiced up power. It's like, first of all, I don't even know if you can actually kill the dude, okay? Because I've seen them.
I've seen them pierce his heart. I've seen him get stabbed in the head. I've seen, like, pretty much any way you think you should be able to kill this dude, and he has literally come back to life. So I don't know, can you actually kill? Just like I said, I don't even know how they killed his dad. I don't know how his dad died because, like, in the world, like, in their universe as far as, like, immortality, I'm up there with you, mister conspiracy. Like, this dude didn't been slashed, burnt, cut. I mean, like, I don't know how you actually kill him. You know, because he comes back and when he activates his, I mean, like you said, his bloodline, he goes into his demonic form, and he's accomplished some things that not even his father was able to do. And he's only half. So I don't, like you said, by the universe standards, like, first of all, nobody can kill, as far as I know, in devil may cry, nobody can kill him. The best thing they could do is seal him. That was, like, the best case scenario. You could seal them, but even then that didn't hold, you know, when they did in the anime, because the dude was like, we gonna steal the son of Sparta. You know, we gonna get it. And they couldn't even, that didn't even last because depending on his temperament and power level goes up. So, I mean, so if you look at these two characters, right, they both have superhuman strength that's out of this world, right? They both have superhuman healing factors that is out of this world as well, okay? Superhuman stamina, superhuman durability, okay? Superhuman speed. You're saying you name if you put them, like, mirror, you know, side by side comparison to each other, like, their abilities are so, like, they have a few differences. Like, vampire hunter D has that hand that brought, like, he was literally dead. Somebody actually managed to kill him. Like, and he resurrected him. So, you know, again, another power set that he had, he came back after he was, he was killed, you know, and I mean, again, Dante, because his bloodline, I don't know how you kill him either, because I've seen some crazy stuff. Like, I've seen him put sewage through almost every part of his body, hold him there. All the blood loss and everything. And the dude still got up, super juiced up, and he wasn't even in his demonic form then. So I don't, like you said, if you. If both of them turned on their, their bloodlines, like, I don't know how you decide who's the most powerful and who's not. Like, I don't know. Like, how do you even judge?
I don't know how you judge that. You know what I'm saying? Because there's not one thing. Now I will say mister conspiracy. Like, now the thing about being both alive and dead simultaneously, like, because you're not in whatever, the book of life or whatever it is. Like, I mean, that might be. Maybe that's the key. I don't know. Because, like I said, because I still don't know if you can actually kill Dante. I mean, we both seen both characters get physically wounded, you know, to a degree, but they get back up. Like, I mean, the only thing. I think the only thing, the only real weakness that vampire Hunter D has. But again, my character wouldn't know that, is that too much exposure to too much sunlight. But it only happens every blue moon, and it only puts him down for a couple of hours instead of days and stuff like that. So I don't really know. You know, like, I mean, maybe I'm missing something. Maybe. Christopher Robbins, you got any opinion on this? Cause, I mean, I really don't know where to go, like, to say, oh, this is a win. This is a l. I don't know how you say, you know, who is guaranteed stronger, you know, I mean, literally, I don't know.
Like, I guess, yeah, you might have to help us out. Maybe you. You know, you put in the comments who you think is stronger, because, I mean, mister conspiracy, I mean, can you say absolute? Who's the absolute winner in this fight and an absolute loser? Like, without circumstances. And that's the thing.
[00:15:28] Speaker C: Like, well, since I'm the one that took vampire Hunter D, I technically shouldn't do this, but it is a crazy situation they would have to be in, and it really has to do more with vampire Hunter d basically existing and not existing in the aspects of life records. And basically what that means is almost like, okay, he must be. He exists in this realm, and another realm, basically, is how you can go with that. And Dante, depending on what. What version of Dante you use, Dante actually has the ability to destroy realms.
[00:16:14] Speaker B: Mmm.
[00:16:16] Speaker C: So, yeah, it depends on what version of Dante we use. That could actually be the deciding factor on that circumstance.
[00:16:25] Speaker A: So back to circumstances.
[00:16:27] Speaker C: Yeah, back to circumstance, yes.
[00:16:30] Speaker A: So without circumstances, without, like you said, without these specific circumstances, it would be really hard to say who's gonna really win that fight, right? Without circumstances, like, certain things have to be a certain way for one of them to win. This fight, I'm saying if we didn't have that, I don't see how you could say who's the winner and who's the loser. Like, it'd be really hard to.
[00:16:56] Speaker C: I'm like, so I'm so I'm just gonna be real. I'm re real. You know, I love both characters. I am not biased either way, because I love them both equal. But I will have to say this. This has to be said.
If we talked about killing that, that's a whole different thing, right? Because that's just a circumstance type thing at that point, you know?
But if we just talking about just an all out, one on one fight, I'm gonna be honest with you. I think Dante would actually beat him in an actual one on one fight because I feel that, you know, not from like a innate ability, stuff like that. I think from just actual combat ability. Dante is actually above vampire hunter d when it comes to actual combat ability.
[00:17:45] Speaker B: I'm not degree miss conspiracy on this one.
I mean, it's gonna be a fight. That's not. That's not getting construed.
[00:17:52] Speaker C: It's only a fight.
[00:17:53] Speaker B: Yeah, but I think is usually, and this is real reason why. I agree. Mister conspiracy vampire hunter d has a long. I mean, he lives for a long time, right? This long stretch where he doesn't really do anything. He's just chilling from what we see, making stuff. He just goes from one town. One town. He'll get in big skirmishes.
[00:18:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:18:16] Speaker B: He uses power. He goes back to chilling for a long time, from what I know. Not, they always scrapping.
[00:18:23] Speaker A: Always.
Well, I mean, here's the thing, that. That's why I said it's height tricky for me, right? Because technically, vampire hunter d has lived a longer life, right? Yeah.
[00:18:37] Speaker C: Over 10,000 years.
[00:18:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:18:39] Speaker A: And the thing we don't ever really know, like the novel, is the amount of how much did his daddy give him, right? How much did his dad teach him? Even if he's an experiment, right. At what point, you know, I know when Dante's dad stopped educating him, he was eight years old. You know, everything else beyond that. He found a mentor, he got training, things like that. Right? Other things come into play for him, but, you know, with vampire hunter d because they don't really address that elephant in the room. How long after, you know, the experiment happens? How long is he there? How long does his daddy pour into him? Is he just a lab rat? Does dad actually love him? Is he training him the whole time? Or is he just happy to experience, you know, you don't. I mean, and that's why I say it depends. Because if he was with his dad for, like, let's say, maybe it was 1000 years, right? And he was training with his father for 1000 years, but that's a whole different story, you know, fighting. Because, like, then at that point, I'd be like, well, do you really have the advantage? Because. And that's why I said there's a lot of. There's a lot of stuff with this. And I really wish, you know, we could get more into the nitty gritty of this fight, because they're like, I would love. You know what? Shout out to death battle. Like, if y'all hear us on this channel, do vampire hunter d versus. Yeah, if you're here, me, death battle. Like, I would love to see the fight because, like, I. I think there's a lot of nuances here on this fight that it could go depending on, like you said, circumstances or stuff. We don't know, like, how you would calculate the strength. I mean, because these are. Let's be honest, these are two monsters. And, like, and if they existed in the same world, like, it's not like they would come in contact with each other. They might come across each other, but they're hunting different things. And so, you know, like, I mean, but, man, it would be an awesome battle, because I'm thinking, like, if you're talking about fathers who are, like, the most powerful, Dracula and Spartan, like, in the. In that, you know, saying, that's it.
[00:20:35] Speaker C: I'm gonna do that fight, too, actually, man. Tell them. Do that fight, too. DLC, you know? So go ahead and start with the fathers first.
[00:20:40] Speaker A: Yeah, start with that one first.
[00:20:42] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:20:46] Speaker A: Like, yo, like I said, man, it's an interesting fisticuffs, man, because I was like. I was thinking, I'm like, mandy, know how this go. Go. Like, I've been thinking about this since I put it out there, like, to the team. I like, I don't know how this is going, obviously. Like, it go. It's so many ways.
[00:21:04] Speaker B: Present your.
[00:21:10] Speaker A: Yeah, I like. Yeah, I don't know, man. Like, like I said, I. This is. I have to. The audience decide on this one, man. I don't. I don't. I don't really. I don't really know, you know, like I said, like, either one of me could win this fight. Like, but I'm gonna let the audience go with this one. I don't. I love both characters, so, like, I'm room for both, you know, technically, in the same breath. It's like, you want to see it happen, but, man, like, what a battle that would be, man. Like, how many arenas or stages would be destroyed. Both of them got swords, long swords, you know, Dante got some guns on them. You know, they got both got these bloodline abilities that. I mean, they daddy's left. It's so much, man. Like, I, man, we could talk about this forever, I don't think. Like, I could come up and just say, like, yo, Dante, don't whoop vampire in the Dec. Like, I can't even say that with a straight face, cuz. I like that. Like, I'd be disingenuous if I said that. Like, yo, I got it. I gotta be real on this one. Like, I can't call it mister conspiracy. Like, you can say what you want, but I can't call this, bro. Like, I can't. I can't call this fight.
[00:22:14] Speaker C: It's circumstance. It all comes down to a circumstance. And in my just my opinion, it, because it's kind of crazy because, you know, you gave me vampire Hunter D, right?
It's kind of crazy because if it's by circumstance, I think Dante by an edge, if it's really just by, only by circumstance, Dante buy an edge, but that's still not even a guarantee just because of the. Just the godlike abilities that vampire hunter deep actually does have that we didn't even dive into. Just don't have enough time for that. It would still be really difficult even if Dante starts destroying realms because of the manipulation abilities that vampire Hunter D has when it comes to but manipulating realms. So it would still make that ability of Dante's even difficult for him to actually used to beat him even just doing that. But, but I'm not gonna get too complicated.
I'm gonna leave it up to the audience down in the comments to decide because that's really crazy. We're gonna need some, some, like, guide tier experts to go ahead and come on in and let us know what's going on.
[00:23:28] Speaker A: We'll have to leave. Fisticuffs, dirt, man. Yeah. Audience, you got to tell us, man, who you loving, vampire honor D or Dante, man. You know, put it in the comments, man. Put some thumbs up on who you love, Mandy. And if you got some answers for. Hey, man, thumb down there, man. We'll try and respond to everybody we can. You know, pooh bear, I mean, do you got any, I mean, I know you're not in the fight. You're not even necessarily judging it, but, like, you got any opinion on this before we move on?
It's tough.
It's tough, man. It's a tough call.
[00:24:07] Speaker B: I mean, you got, like you said, dante's endless fighting training from his dead, and he got what you call the devil trigger. He actually could transform into a demon like you said he could. He can reach into destroy realms. Then, you know, you go over there to vampire hundred D, and we forgot about his little. His little hand companion. So if he does get the hell up, he resuscitates him.
God. Tier power levels from. From his dad.
He is also a proficient sword fight. So they're both fishes. War fighters. Doesn't Dante use a gun? I mean.
Yeah, I mean, I think he's took.
[00:24:56] Speaker C: Well, his telekinesis and stuff like that. Like, it's really powerful, so he really wouldn't need to have one, because even.
[00:25:03] Speaker A: If he was shooting doctor, shooting bullets at him.
[00:25:08] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:25:08] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:09] Speaker A: That's why I say it would come down to sword fighting. But even then, I can't tell you.
[00:25:13] Speaker B: And both lightness, speed, that's hard.
That's tough, man.
[00:25:23] Speaker A: I mean, but you know what? That's the point. That's the point of this, right, is to let your imagination roll wild, right? Like, it's easy when it's a one sided fight, but, like, these guys are so equally matched, it's hard to say. Like you say, circumstantial, right? Like, I don't know. That's why I say I didn't got the side as well, asking you, pooh bear, did you actually have a. Like, you know, if you. If it's for the audience, is for the audience, man. I'm not.
[00:25:48] Speaker B: But then again, I mean, yeah, but, you know, finally, he does have 10,000 years, you know, I guess you could tap in all that experience, and then you can say, well, you know, they both got stamina out there, out the wazoo, so it's definitely gonna be drawn out.
[00:26:11] Speaker A: Who got more durability, who got more stamina? Who knows, right?
[00:26:16] Speaker B: Gonna be cut. I think it's gonna come down to combat knowledge, figuring out your opponent's weakness at some point and trying to exploit that.
But they both battle geniuses. So it's check. It's gonna be not checkers, but check chess.
It's gonna come down not checkers. This is a chess fight. This is thinking, lord be. Yeah. Trying to. Trying to think 20 moves ahead, trying to stay, you know, that much ahead of your opponent, but who also could do the same thing, you know, saying, so, bro.
[00:26:50] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:26:51] Speaker A: And then you got both of their dads cheering them on in the background.
I want somebody to action, too, you know? Hey, let me. Let me. Let me go see what your daddy about. You know what I'm saying? So, like I said, this is the fun of anime cartoons and all of this, right? Like, it's the things that I enjoy. Something you would never, ever see in real life. But, I mean, you get. You'll say, but you're getting to let your imagination run wild a little bit on it. So as much anime and manga as we consume, like, I can't even answer that, you know, for this fight. So, like I said, it's to the audience. I'm gonna leave my piece till we move on to the next segment. But, yeah, that's all I got to say, man. Like, phenomenal. It's a great battle. Like, when you got me thinking all day, you didn't done something right.
And it didn't matter about either one because, you know, we research and we trying to find that edge. But, man, that's. This one was a doozy. Like, I ain't got enough. I needed. I needed months of research, not nothing, days. I needed months to be able to dive in, looking at everything.
There's no way to call it. That's it.